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Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« on: November 20, 2017, 07:41:43 PM »
I know I could find this out with a little research, but I know some of you are experts. The list of cards are the the names found in the GENERAL INTEREST series item 97. the subjects are likely 1902

Question one  - what teams did these players play for?
Q2 - Is there a common denominator i.e. did they play for FA cup or their country, trying to establish why these particular players were chosen to be included in the series.
Q3 - Are there any mistakes either in picture or spelling, if you need me to scan all the cards just ask, other than the two cards shown below.
Q4 - Is there any other interesting point issue that I could include in my writings

FOOTBALL.
 
22. W. C. Athersmith    
23. Bassett
24. B. Battles    
25. R. Blyth   
26. J. Campbell
27. Crabtree - Aston Villa
28. Doig
29. J. C. Drummond
30. R. C. Hamilton
31. George Hogg
32. B. Hulse
33. Robert Laing - St. Bernards F.C.
34. R. C. McColl
35. A. McQueen
36. W. Porteus
37. A. Raisback
38. M. Reilly - Portsmouth
39. J. Robertson
40. Sharp
41. G. O. Smith
42. S. Smith
43. Sutcliffe
44. R. Walker
45. H. Woods
46. Football - London Welsh v. Newport
 

Note that 23, with caption “Bassett” is a picture of J. T. Robertson, and 39 with caption “J. Robertson” is a picture of W. I. Bassett
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2017, 07:10:03 AM »
Any football cards, look through Alan’s website https://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/index-p-z.html?m=1
Not Forgotten; W.Allwright,H.Gould,J.Greechan,P.Hagan,G.Kennedy,G.Littler,H.Purver,H.Robotham,P.Saunders,R.Shields,A.Walker

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2017, 07:12:40 AM »
Also, I would say that these players were the ‘stars’ of football at that particular time. Some amateurs but most are professionals of the period.
Not Forgotten; W.Allwright,H.Gould,J.Greechan,P.Hagan,G.Kennedy,G.Littler,H.Purver,H.Robotham,P.Saunders,R.Shields,A.Walker

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 10:18:39 AM »
Yes it is, that's the first question answered, I knew you football fans could find find out in a fraction of the time. Thankyou

W.C. Athersmith (Aston Villa)
Crabtree (Aston Villa)
S. Smith (Aston Villa)
B. Battles (Celtic)
R. Walker (Celtic)
G.O. Smith (Corinthians)
A. McQueen (Derby County)
Sharp (Preston North End)   -   amended 15-04-2016   -   thanks to Paul Chauveau
George Hogg (Heart of Midlothian)
W. Porteus (Heart of Midlothian)
A. Raisbeck (Liverpool)
B. Hulse (Millwall Athletic)
H. Woods (Norwich City)
R. Blyth (Portsmouth)
M. Reilly (Portsmouth)
R.C. McColl (Queens Park)
J.C. Drummond (Rangers)
R.C. Hamilton (Rangers)
J. Robertson (Rangers)   -  Picture actually Bassett (West Bromwich Albion)
Priest (Sheffield United)
Robert Laing (St. Bernards F.C.)
J. Campbell (Sunderland)
Doig (Sunderland)
Bassett (West Bromwich Albion)   -  Picture actually J. Robertson (Rangers)
Sutcliffe (Portsmouth)
Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 10:31:54 AM »
Have been on Alan's site before really good. Have noticed in the list that A. Raisbeck is spelt with an 'e' the card is spelt  Raisback with an 'a', which one is correct?
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 10:41:09 AM »
Am I correct 7 of the players are from the Scottish league

2 x Celtic
2 x Heart of Midlothian
3 x Rangers

Where the other teams league leaders, why these teams?
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2017, 11:02:04 AM »
This card is also within the football section of item 97 but think it is Rugby.

London Welsh V Newport, does anybody know the occasion?

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 11:40:41 AM »
Have been on Alan's site before really good. Have noticed in the list that A. Raisbeck is spelt with an 'e' the card is spelt  Raisback with an 'a', which one is correct?

That might be an error on my part. His name is Raisbeck, not Raisback. I will amend my listing to show Raisback and include a note regarding the incorrect speeling of his name.

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Alan

PS.  Thanks Paul for the kind comments about my blog.

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 11:50:18 AM »
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Note that 23, with caption “Bassett” is a picture of J. T. Robertson, and 39 with caption “J. Robertson” is a picture of W. I. Bassett

Would you mind if I included the scans of these two cards (Bassett and Robinson) on my blog? I have images of two cards from other sets where the captions are correct.

Alan

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2017, 01:28:16 PM »
Am I correct 7 of the players are from the Scottish league

2 x Celtic
2 x Heart of Midlothian
3 x Rangers

Where the other teams league leaders, why these teams?

Queens Park and St. Bernards are also Scottish teams.

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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 02:25:50 PM »
Checking on Wikipedia think you are correct on the spelling and the card is wrong, but would like to know for sure then can record the card as an error card.
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2017, 02:27:53 PM »
No problem Alan, add away, do have all the cards so if you want all the scans again no problem.
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 02:30:57 PM »
2 x Celtic
2 x Heart of Midlothian
3 x Rangers
1 x Queens Park
1 x St. Bernard

So 9 Scottish teams represented in the list, will add that to my notes.
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Re: Ogdens item 97 - football cards what teams
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2017, 03:54:38 PM »
No problem Alan, add away, do have all the cards so if you want all the scans again no problem.

Thank you, just added them to my blog.

Thanks for the offer of scans of all the cards. I would certainly be interested in taking you up on your offer. I always enjoy adding illustrated checklists to my blog.


 

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