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fossil
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trade cards of the 1950's
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April 27, 2012, 09:50:49 PM »
with the demise of cigarette cards, before and during the war, it seemed as if there were attempts to re-introduce them to a certain degree, and even into the 1980's.
but it is during the 1950's, and early 1960's, that the trade card, issued with many commodities, really took off.
there are many fine and interesting sets issued at this time, most, not as artistic or informative as pre war, with possibly the exception of brooke bond, that used artwork, by fairly skilled artists, and scientists, well known in their respective fields of study, but nevertheless, some , some very collectable sets.
there are a couple of questions i am yet to find out, and that is where many of the sets were originally issued from ?
it seems as if there was one source or art studio, that turned out many subjects, and these were sold to various commodities, as many sets can be found issued by several firms of trade, and even by amalgamated tobacco
likewise, i have noticed that many sets are by the same artist, although not by name, but by his, or her initials on the cards,
i have seen many sets,(within my theme of natural history collecting), by an artist, that signs his initials as CM, or MC.
their are sets of various butterflie, such as issued by mitcham, or birds such as issued by sunlight and others, as well as animal and flower sets.
i have learneed to distinguish this particular artist, by his style, and the artist has a fair knowledge of his subject.
not collecting other themes, i do not know if he illustrates transport or other subjects in cards.
there is also, some very ;tacky; illustrated cards, with animals in exaggerated positions, such as an elephant rearing on its hind leggs, and animals well out of proportion.
also, some of the information should be questioned, as i have a set of cards, with penguins living in the north artic regions, and bactrian camels in front of the pyramids at giza
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Ogdenscards
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Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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April 30, 2012, 09:53:58 PM »
Wish I new my "stuff" as well as you, I cannot answer nor constructively comment on any part of your point, but a question arouse in my head, who initiated the idea of a set the printer or the commodity manufacturer.
I do know that the smaller companies went to the printers and asked what was available and no doubt a list would be presented for them to choose. The small manufactures only designed the backs, which promoted their products; they would then purchase however number of sets suited them. Who would own the copyright? You would think that if the larger cigarette companies did, they would not allow distribution by others - just a thought.
One particular seller "Shaws" of Sedbergh springs to mind as I found a military card at a car boot and could not find them in the Murray’s catalogue. After a little research, I found that "Shaws" was a tea & confectioners shop in the small town of Sedbergh. Only 5 cards in this set have ever been seen mine being one. They may have distributed as few as 200 or 50 sets who knows and that is why they are rare.
I wonder who if anybody did own the copyrights?
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Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
Best Regards David
fossil
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Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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April 30, 2012, 10:43:29 PM »
hi, thanks for replying.
although the military cards you mention, are out of my field of collecting, they are listed in reference books, i have the four british trade index volumes, and also british tobaccos issues handbook, and it is listed as 'types of soldiers'
there appears to have been seven tobacco brands, and sixteen trade brands
the full set comprised of 25 cards
it appears that both murrays and the LCCC, can really only catalogue the most basic sets, and if they catalogued all the trade card issues, it would be far larger than their current catalogues.
it often surprises me what can get into their catalogues, or is omitted, sometimes obscure cardswhich no sets are available seem to get in, yet sets such as issued by nectar, and john corah do not get in
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Ogdenscards
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Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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April 30, 2012, 11:06:41 PM »
What you saying is correct I was going of memory, which is fading and perhaps out of date. Vernon wrote the Trade book, who I know and a complete set has not, as of yet, been seen and yes there will be 25 in the set. The back of each card seen depicts different products of the shop. A copy my card, which I have attached, was sent to Vernon, to verify existence. I have also included a photocopy of the back of one other.
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Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
Best Regards David
Ogdenscards
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Collects all cards issued by Ogden's
Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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April 30, 2012, 11:17:59 PM »
One other point, as I have in the past mentioned your comment to Martin Murray. He said the "catalogue" is a catalogue of his stock which is for sale. I suppose he had to draw a line somewhere.
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Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
Best Regards David
fossil
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Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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May 01, 2012, 08:39:57 AM »
thats an interesting cards.
i noticed that in my reference books, that some cards could be found with the extra wording, 'in review order'
an interesting anecdote about this particular regiment.
during the first world war, there were rumours going round , that russian infantry could be found in britain, still with snow on their boots.
this was probably started, when the seaforth highlanders, when asked where they came from, in their broad highland accent, 'from rushire'
this regiments nickname, being the ross shire buffs, as seen on the card
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Ogdenscards
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Re: trade cards of the 1950's
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May 01, 2012, 01:13:41 PM »
Its amazing all the information out there one thing leads to another. did not know that about the regiment but my military knowledge is very limited.
You say you work in a museum as a P?
???t, can't spell it. It must be very interesting and I can see were your interest in the natural history originated.
I did answer your question about the content of the Guinea Golds but I think I posted it in the wrong category.
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Always looking for interesting cards and associated goods issued by Ogden's you can see samples of cards I am looking for in the wants section.
Best Regards David
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