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Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:56:34 AM »
(This thread is unashamedly inspired by MagpieMick's one about Leon Leuty and black footballers.)

Are there many footballers on cards who were killed in WW1?
I know that there were footballer 'Pals' battalions, so I'm presuming that the answer to my question is going to be a resounding "yes", but it would be nice to have a sort of 'Hall of Fame' if you will to remember these (mainly) young men.

For my own part, I know that two Huddersfield players lost their lives in WW1; Sidney James (no, not THAT one!) and Larrett Roebuck (who never even made it past October 1914 :( ) but they do not appear on any of the cards of the time.

The best that I can manage is Leigh Roose, a goalkeeper on Town's books in 1910 who subsequently moved on to Aston Villa and then Arsenal before being killed in action on the Somme in 1916, his goalkeeping skills to the fore, where he was a noted grenade thrower! :)

   

Do we know of any others?

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2014, 10:40:12 AM »
Originally I found 4 players, from Brentford FC, who died in WW1, but as far as I know, aren't depicted on a cigarette or trade card.

These are;

Private Henry George Purver.
24th Battalion (2nd Sportsmen's) Royal Fusiliers.
Died 31/7/1916. Delville Wood, Somme, France.
No known grave. Recorded on the Thiepval Memorial (Pier and Face 8 C 9 A and 16 A)
Played for Brentford FC 1911-12 (2 apps)

Sergeant George Littler.
1st & 2nd Battalion Kings Royal Rifles.
Died (aged 27) on 11/5/1915. Battle of Aubers, Neuve Chapelle, France.
Bethune Town Cemetery, plot no. III grave no.C.27
Played for Brentford FC 1913-14 (Southern Alliance Reserve League)

Sergeant Patrick Hagan.
11th Battalion Royal Scots.
Died 14/7/1916. Beaumont Hamel, Somme, France.
No known grave. Recorded on the Thiepval Memorial (Pier and Face 6D & 7D)
Played for Brentford FC 1906-1908 (49 apps)

Private Horace Osborne Robotham.
23rd Battalion Duke of Cambridgeshire's Own (Middlesex Regiment)
Died 12/9/1916. Somme, France.
No known grave. Recorded on the Thiepval Memorial (Pier and Face 12D & 13B)
Played for Brentford FC 1905-06 (18 apps)

Sergeant Henry Cook.
12th Battalion Alexandra Princess of Wales' Own (Yorkshire Regiment)
Died 9.1.1917. Somme, France.
Buried Grove Town Cemetery, Meaulte. Plot II. L.6.
Played as a 'Guest' for Brentford FC 1915-16 (10 apps)
Whilst stationed in London. Played for Middlesbrough FC originally.

Any Middlesbrough cards of Harry Cook out there?

Now, as with all research, you find others, and I can add three more names to the list; James Greechan - KIA 1917, Fred Alborough - Died 1918 of Spanish Flu, just 3 days after playing 3 matches for Brentford FC - and William Allwright - died 1918 of wounds. Sadly, once again, no known cards of them to my knowledge. Only James Greechan could realistically have a card, as he played for Hibs, Brentford, Clapton Orient, Glossop, Stockport and Carlisle - that I know of - the other two were only players for 1 season, in 1918 and 1899-1900.

I continue with the research too. There could well be more.

RIP
« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 11:01:54 AM by wandererpaul »
Not Forgotten; W.Allwright,H.Gould,J.Greechan,P.Hagan,G.Kennedy,G.Littler,H.Purver,H.Robotham,P.Saunders,R.Shields,A.Walker

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2014, 04:19:38 PM »
Very interesting, Mick, but I was rather hoping that the thread would be populated with pictures of footballers on cards.
Perhaps not so many out there as I expected?

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2014, 04:28:45 PM »
Getting basic info first and the names may lead to finding the person on a card a few more links now my appetite for discovery has been whetted

http://scottishfootballhistory.wordpress.com/2013/12/26/world-war-one-scottish-footballers-roll-of-honour/

http://www.examiner.co.

news/west-yorkshire-news/family-calls-action-over-remains-4939510      A Huddersfield Town article 



http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0857331035?pc_redir=1399575689&robot_redir=1

. http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/family-calls-action-over-remains-4939510













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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2014, 04:51:02 PM »
Interesting again, Mick.

The photograph used in that Huddersfield Examiner article is actually MY postcard! It's on my website. I wasn't aware that they had used it. And, for information, Larrett Roebuck is not identified on it; he is actually second from the right on the back row.

Still not a cig or trade card though. I know for a fact that neither Roebuck nor James appeared on any, although they were present on several postcards and teamgroups that I have.

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2014, 05:18:32 PM »
Smith's "Football Club Records" (1917) has over half the players shown as OHMS, and one card #17 E.S.Garve of Queens Park has "died of wounds".
Might be worth further research.
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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2014, 08:44:40 PM »
St James' has a memorial to those nufc footballers who fell and served, also includes club Dr and others. Sorry know it's not a card but may guide you towards cards.

http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=8322

Hope it helps, and I think it's great that we are doing a small bit towards keeping the memory of these men.


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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2014, 10:53:17 PM »
Teddy Bullen was the only Shakers' player killed in WW1.  There is  a plaque in his memory in the boardroom.
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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2014, 10:57:45 PM »
And here's the card.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2014, 10:59:49 PM by shaker »
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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2014, 08:33:16 AM »
Good work there, Shaker.

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 09:45:11 PM »
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_Battalion

Following on from Terriers first post I hope the link helps .

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 09:00:59 AM »
I notice that the Football Association are 'pushing' the 1914 Christmas truce, but more especially the football match played then at schools next term. My wife (still teaching) has been sent a very thick A4 horizontal book filled with ideas, teaching suggestions per subject and crammed full with resources. Some of the players mentioned by posters on here include Turnbull and Bell and my own Leigh Roose.

Somewhere I also have a photograph of a team made from the Football 'Pals' Battalion; when I've a minute I'll hunt it out.

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2014, 02:42:05 PM »
As promised.
Not a card, but a photograph.
Still worth seeing though, for sure!

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Re: Footballer cards - killed in WW1 action
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2017, 11:35:04 PM »
Can't believe it's over three years since this topic😲.
Just thought I'd post the programme cover for Thursday's Cup game v Sunderland.
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